XILS 3 1.5.0 Import/Export Bank doesn't do anything :-(

[xavier]

Thanks Nielzie,
I understand now.
For some reasons (I will check it) the following files are not copied into your system. Maybe because of a anti-virus program, or because of Windows 7 security.

I attached the two files, one for the 32 bits version, the other for the 64 bits. You need to unzip them and to copy these .dll file in your windows system folder (same folder for XP and windows 7, 32 bits or 64 bits system) c:/windows/system32

Best regards
Xavier

[Nielzie]

Hi Xavier, thanks for looking into this.

I've just installed the new Beta 1.0.81 and checked if it put both XilsFiles32.dll and XilsFiles64.dll in my Windows/System32 folder, and it did. After previous uninstallation and before last installation they where not there, I checked that too.

But STILL it does not seem to work

I don't have the User Account Control (UAC) security on and use Microsoft Essentials anti-virus, that would always tell me if it would block something.

So I'm really puzzeled now what's going on!

[xavier]

Hi Nielzie,

I'm puzzle too !

I will check it deeper.


Best regards
Xavier

[Nielzie]

Hi Xavier,

I'm thinking about a work-around for my problem. Is there an option to manually "unpack" the soundbank file(s), so that I can put all the presets in the right place myself?

Besides, wouldn't it be an idea for a future update to be able to manually drag and drop the sounbank file from an OS explorer window to the plugin GUI to install the presets? That way loading a browser window and selecting to open the file wouldn't be necessary anymore (not even installation of those dll files in System32 I presume). Of course this feature could be implemented for all existing (and future) XILS-lab plugins. That would be a nice alternative, besides the current option to import banks from the menu

[Nielzie]

Hi Xavier,

I'm thinking about a work-around for my problem. Is there an option to manually "unpack" the soundbank file(s), so that I can put all the presets in the right place myself?

Besides, wouldn't it be an idea for a future update to be able to manually drag and drop the sounbank file from an OS explorer window to the plugin GUI to install the presets? That way loading a browser window and selecting to open the file wouldn't be necessary anymore (not even installation of those dll files in System32 I presume). Of course this feature could be implemented for all existing (and future) XILS-lab plugins. That would be a nice alternative, besides the current option to import banks from the menu

Please?

[xavier]

Hi Nielzie,

This is not exactly possible : the Xils-lab preset management is based on a simple, but powerful data base. At the difference of SQL standard, the base is made with text file, which simplifies the treatment, the debug, but as the SQL standard, can't be managed directly. The each preset is made with two files, .inf and .prt, the first gives informations (name, bank, feeling, author, etc..), the second gives the values. The files are built with a number (presetxxx.inf, presetxxx.prt), but this number is not a random number and there must be continuous (from 0000 to xxxx, there must be no holes)
Before the preset 1001, it is factory presets, which can be overwritten by the installer without any risks. Above preset 1001, you find users presets.

So a tool which unpack the bank and copy the files in the correct location must create these two files structure with the correct number, and then , this tools should work in the same way the actual "import bank" function is working.

But once a bank is importing with any version of your synth, then, the presets are available for further version.

I have checked this issue on windows7, and still didn't find anything wrong on my system or on the installer. It is as if, for some reasons, your system doesn't want to load the XilsFiles32.dll or XilsFiles64.dll.

For the moment, I don't know why (only you and an other customer (I assume, a little more) get this issue.
I will check User Account Control (UAC) security and Microsoft Essentials anti-virus, maybe they are doing something without telling you anything.

The fact the these two files are .dll in the system folder is maybe something anti-virus, especially Microsoft, doesn't like. I will check if I can find a workaround.


Best regards
Xavier

[Nielzie]

Hi Xavier,

I have the User Account Control (UAC) security disabled on my Windows 7 pc, because it's a pain for me to have it enabled and as I am a systems administrator in my dayjob, I generally know what I'm doing (at least I'd like to think so)

I've disabled my realtime antivirus protection and tried again, but still the file browser window won't load when trying to import a bank. I've also installed the XILS 3 LE in different locations to make sure it doesn't conflict with earlier versions and the full version that I had previously installed on my system, but no luck either.

[xavier]

Hi Nielzie,

Could I send you a version which will create a log file ? This could give me some clues to fix this issue (I hope so !)
Let me a couple of days to build it.


Best regards
Xavier

BTW : You must understand windows 7 better than me (I'm working most of the time on OSX now) !!

[Nielzie]

Hi Nielzie,

Could I send you a version which will create a log file ? This could give me some clues to fix this issue (I hope so !)
Let me a couple of days to build it.

Sure Xavier, just let me know when the custom build is ready.

Also I would be interested to try an older version (perhaps one of the first) of the XILS 3 LE, because I didn't always have this problem on my (same) system. I used the XILS 3 LE exclusively in the XILS-lab song contest last year and at the time I could import new banks.

Perhaps it could be an idea to build a version for testing if it's not too much work, that reads the XilsFiles32.dll and XilsFiles64.dll from another location, like for instance the installation folder where the vst dll files also resist (or the location where the data and presets are), or do they have to be in the Windows/System32 folder in order to make them work?

(By the way, I also tried XILS 3 LE in the newest version of Reaper today and still the same problem, so it's definately not Host specific)

Best Regards,

Niels

[xavier]

Hi Nielzie,

Yes this issue is not related to the DAW.

Here is the link to the new beta (without traces at a first step, hopefully it will work better)
the .dll is loaded from the system and if it fails, from the install folder (I tested it on XP (32b) and windows7 (32 & 64b), and it works fine here)
http://www.xils-lab.com/download_files/ ... _V1081.exe

Let me know if this fixes your issue on your system.
If not, then it is not related to the folder but to some windows function I'm using to load the .dll.

Anyway, I will add some links in the "XILS3 LE archive web page" to allow users to download older versions (1.0.7x)

Best regards
Xavier